2245W and T Tenders

[starfire700]

I have 2 diecast 2245 tenders a "W" and a "T". Both have higher spring-type trucks with nickel journals. They look like 1938 production.
Is this possible because I thought this diecast tender did not come out until 1939, and would have to come with a black 225E.

[starfire700]

Also, was wondering if the small plastic nub on the pick-up shoe is 1938 and 39, or just 1939.

[starfire700]

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[Terry]

I have the 2245W tender just like you show with a Black 225E. It has no center pickup on front truck (not sure if that's correct) and a 2-rib hood on the coupler. There is a plastic nib on the coupler slider. It has an inventory sticker my dad put on it says goes with 225E-3, the loco has no sticker. The stickers fall off so that means nothing.

I've never seen a 2245T tender. Maybe that's for export to areas where the trains ran on DC or on odd phase AC.

 

[starfire700]

I thought the "T" tenders were either optional when purchased separately of for uncataloged sets where the department store customer wanted to keep the price down. I was particularly addressing the nickel journals on high trucks, which looks like 1938 to me. Does your 2245W have these trucks with nickel journals?

[Terry]

My 2245W has the same ex-IVES trucks with the two triangle cutouts. It's the same tender you show with nickel journals and the plastic nib on the slide shoe.  Mine has a diecast whistle chamber.

About the 2245T, I went crazy years ago with the seperate sale whistle tender sets. I never saw or heard of a diecast tender coming in a seperate sale box.  I think the diecast tenders - 2226W, 2245W/2235W and 2224W always came with a whistle unless there was a specific reason why not.

Those reasons would be export or sales to areas with odd electric currents, specials to keep the price down for department stores, and clean outs in 1942-43. Or any combination of those.