Terry's American OO layout 1934-40

[Terry]

I have started the 00 layout. Outside 3rd rail with trains made from 1934-40. My locos are by Lionel, Nason, and Scalecraft. I have cars by the three loco makers and by Famaco and Eastern.

The idea is to build a layout using 1930s techniques. Open framework with handlaid track on ballasted plywood is the start. The track plan is a twice around with the high and low points at the back. This means the forward edge has both loops at the same height so the town-site is flat.

Here's a track plan:

 

I decided to test the trains to make sure they'll go up the grade. The raise is 3" overall - so that's about 1.5" in 10 feet. Overall grade is about 1.25%.

Here's a video of a Nason 4-4-2 Atlantic loco and a Nason Interurban running around the layout. There is a section of temporary track in the back that the trains won't go through.

None of these locos ran after sitting for decades. The original 3rd rail layout was taken apart in the mid 1950s. So far they all run after disassembly, cleaning and lubing.

[Terry]

Here's some information about hand-laying the track.

Originally I thought the outside 3rd rail should go on the outside of the curves because that would keep the loco on the track, but that's not how the old tracks were made. Firstly, these are scale models and run much slower than our toy trains. Secondly, the locos stick out and would snag the 3rd rail if it was on the outside. Only long passenger cars risk hitting an inside rail, and the under-frame details can be shaved to clear the rail.

The old fiber tie strip is too fragile to drill through. I soaked it in water for a week to get it pliable enough to form curves, but it shatters when drilled.

The spikes won't go into the plywood, so every hole has to be drilled first. I started with tiny bits that broke every 5-8 holes, but a friend recommended I use pins or sewing needles. Sewing needles worked well and I bought 80 of them for $4. I can get 15-20 holes per pin.

I have a lot of different spikes I've collected over the years. Different diameters and different heads. This allows me to put different spikes into the same hole and move the rail.

Lincoln pennies are a great help.  I found a penny with a brass strip in the box of track stuff that came with the old track. The penny diameter is the gauge, and the thickness is the wheel tread.

Here's some pictures.

Marking location of inner rail. Inner rail is radius of the track. This section is 26" radius. I made the wood strip when I did the plywood.

 

 

Here's the tie strip after soaking in the tub and being blotted dry on the cardboard.

 

Start with the rail off the curve in a straight section. The black box is a rail gauge for straight track and allows me to clamp the rail. Here's the set up:

 

Then you work around with the rail over the black line.

 

 

Once the inside rail is laid, the straight section is used to start the curve and you just follow along with the track gauge and the pennies. The outside rail goes much quicker than the inner because it only has one place to go.

 

 

 

This section has a slight S curve and then matches to the existing track. By leaving a few inches of the rail sticking out and then clamping the aligned rails down I can make a transition that works. This is actually much easier than it looks.

 

 

After it's clamped I cut all four rails and trim the roadbed. I can adjust the curve by sliding the two roadbed sections back and forth under the rails. Because the other ends of the track sections influence this joint it will be spiked last.

 

So far I think I'm managing to do a foot every six hours!

[Terry]

Here's a video of the Nason Atlantic pulling some Lionel cars and the Nason Interurban on the layout:

So far it took me about 8 hours a foot to do the track. I did the gray track, the track with tan roadbed is from 1937.  I spent a lot of time getting the rails perfect, but didn't pay much attention to the 3rd rail. I need to raise it in some areas.

The Atlantic doesn't like the switches. The points are just pinned. I need to clean and repair the points and frogs so they sit correctly.

The interurban will only run counter-clockwise. There is a warped insulator on the underside of the loco and I think it's snagging on rail spikes.

I'm going to add outside pickups to a Lionel 004 Semi-scale Hudson loco and convert it to DC this weekend. I also do a full scale Hudson for the layout.

I'm having fun.

[starfire700]

First I have had a chance to see this ambitious project. I always wanted to build a 3 rail Lionel OO layout, but never got past a single loop as part of larger O gauge layouts. Is there any progress to report, would like to see it if so.

[Terry]

I was planning on working on this layout over the hot summer months, but have been wasting my time promoting my newest book.  I did get a 004 semiscale Hudson and an 003T tender set up with a third rail pickup that works.

The five amp bridge rectifiers fail after an hour or so. I bought 10 amp ones and they have been ok so far. These go in the locos to replace the old stacked leech rectifiers that don't work anymore.

The lionel trucks and couplers are difficult to use because when you pick you the car to connect couplers, the truck swivels. I met a man who will make me 3d printed ramps to put cars on the track, and have spent a few hours figuring out the couplers. Kadee HO couplers with whiskers mount right onto the cars, but need shim washers to get the right height. The shims can go on the coupler or on the trucks. I'm still figuring that out.

The layout is not going anywhere, and I'll be back to it one of these days. I do go down and run the Standard and O gauge layouts. I ran the 392E onto the floor because I left something on the track. Three months later the frame broke?

Terry

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[Terry]

I've been working on the railroad. The back area will be a tree covered mountain that will block  reach so I'm going to get the base elevations done now.

I started doing short videos for YouTube. They are 30-60 seconds each in a vertical format for phones. Almost no editing. The layout construction videos should all play in  a series from this one:

Like and follow the videos on Youtube if you want more.