Some Interesting Lionel Items

[starfire700]

Some Interesting Early Lionel Items
16 ballast car numbered 190, is probably a Cohen remake from long ago.
I am showing it as the design shows that he must have had knowledge of the 16 prototype that Terry showed in his post about adjusting photo sizes.

[starfire700]

A 4 wheel 800 series flatcar with Silver rubber stamped lettering

[starfire700]

Another photo of my 15 tank with matching maroon frame rail, along with 11 flatcar lettered Pennsylvania RR

[early0electric]

Here's an interesting pair of orange 600 Pullmans. Both came with a maroon 150 and maroon roofs, no Lionel stamp on the bottom.
 

[Terry]

The orange on the roof of the back car is reflection? They are just regular maroon roofs?

I have orange cars that came with a maroon 150.

 

600i1 Orange, 600 on one end to right of door, regular wheels, white corp stamp on bottom. Have 2.

Here's the loco:

150d2 Maroon, type 4 motor with riveted brushes, red fiber with corp plate. This is beat up, but came in set with orange 600 Pullmans.

I assume that orange 610/612 cars exist since every other passenger car (O and STD) from the 1921-24 period is found in orange. Never heard of them, but maybe someday.

[early0electric]

The orange is just a reflection. They're just regular maroon roofs.

[Terry]

I just dug out a single 35 pullman with the Made and Guaranteed by Lionel Corp stamp on the bottom, and a Lionel Lines NY Made in USA stamp on an end. Matching 36 observation has a regular corp stamp on bottom. Both cars have wood tanks, hook couplers and WHITE strips on the upper windows and small windows. I bought these at a flea market outside Trenton NJ in the  mid-1980s with a 33 that is long gone.

[starfire700]

Some interesting items include
820 Boxcar orange with original tuscan brown roof
800 Wabash boxcar
end stamps on 800 and 820
the Wabash 800 has the Lionel data stamp and number on BOTH ends
Last photo also shows end-stamp on NYNHH 801 caboose

[starfire700]

801 NYNHH caboose. Obvious why not many made as the script rubber stamp did not transfer well on the ribbed car side
also 901 Lake Shore gondola in olive and its end-stamp
also a Pennsylvania 901

[starfire700]

the end of a 800 boxcar showing mottled orange/red finish. Has anyone else seen this on a 800 or 820 boxcar ?
600 pullman in dark olive. Note it has a gold stripe under windows and no evidence of NYC Lines lettering over windows. I also have a dark green 600 with gold stripe and no lettering over windows.
Has anyone else noticed this ?
Last is a Manufacturing Directions booklet

[starfire700]

Pair of dark green 600 pullmans. One has NYC Lines over windows and no gold stripe below windows. The other has no NYC Lines over windows and does have the gold stripe, same as my olive 600
Also an interesting set I got #168, contains a light olive 154 and orange 602 baggage with 603 pullmans.
Close up of 154 and the end of the set box. Per set book, this should be 154, 601, 601, 602

[starfire700]

Pictures of set No 168

[early0electric]

Nice stuff. Looks a lot like mine so I won't post redundant trains. The Outfit 168 is interesting as it was cataloged in 1917 as the passenger outfit with figure 8 track and then again in 1920 as the 154 freight outfit with figure 8 track. Your box looks to be of the 1920 vintage.  My orange passenger set came in an Outfit 164 box with a dark green 154.
 

[early0electric]

Here's some of my early boxes.
 

[Terry]

Great stuff. Now I have some new items to look for.

About the 820 boxcar with brown roof. I am interested in the data stamp. The one Jim just posted has 4 lines with each line shorter than the one above it. Like an inverted pyramid.

I have that car. NONE of my other cars have that data stamp. The common 4 line stamp has the MCB line (3rd down) longer than the ones above and below it. Like the car below:

 

The car above has a number in an odd font. Sans Serif.

The data stamp was used on the 12 and 16 hopper cars in standard, and on the 820 boxcar in O. Does the inverted pyramid stamp come on the standard cars?

The dark green 600 come with and without the gold stripe, and with and without the lettering over the windows. I haven't seen a car without a stripe and without a NYC over the windows.

Here's a car for you to look for: