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Collector Corner / Re: Odd 1963 Boxed Lionel 3662 Milk Car set
« Last post by Terry on November 11, 2023, 09:00:49 PM »
Stout Auctions sold a similar car and envelope to the odd set, but with a plain white box in January 2020. The plain white box with rubber stamped number appears similar to the glossy orange box used on the 1964 and later cars, but without the printing. The comparison set in my earlier post is a 1950s set in a classic box.

Here's pictures:

 


 


 


Auction can be seen at:

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/mint-unrun-lionel-postwar-3662-milk-car-and-stand-1089-c-ae248f2bec?objectID=145562008&algIndex=archive_prod&queryID=c560364994d5d3c9adb22a069d2b6754

I found three of the white box sets sold in the last few years. I also found one of the odd boxed sets that sold in August 2023, but without the box inserts and the box had writing on it.

For completness sake, here's a milk car set from the mid 1960s in a glossy orange box. The car platfom and envelope should be the same as the components of the odd boxed set that started this thread.

 


 




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Collector Corner / Re: Odd 1963 Boxed Lionel 3662 Milk Car set
« Last post by early0electric on November 11, 2023, 01:12:26 PM »
Interesting comparison.
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Collector Corner / Re: Odd 1963 Boxed Lionel 3662 Milk Car set
« Last post by Terry on November 10, 2023, 09:59:30 PM »
Here's a quick comparison of the odd set with a regular set.

A few quick differences stand out other than the packaging:
  • The car in the odd set has no build date and plastic trucks.
  • Regular set platform has Lionel information stamped into the metal on the underside. The platform in the odd set does not. 
  • The regular parts envelope was stapled shut, has a different font and specifies 3662 car. Odd envelope specifies 3662-70 car, and was glued shut. (I'm not sure staple was put in at factory, we'd have to check some other milk cars.)
 

Here's some comparison photos:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



I remember an article about this odd box. Maybe in Classic Toy Trains or in The Atlantic Division Express. That was a while ago and all I remember is the look of the box and maybe it was Madison Hardware.
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Collector Corner / Odd 1963 Boxed Lionel 3662 Milk Car set
« Last post by Terry on November 10, 2023, 09:47:33 PM »
I got this interesting milk car set the other day. Box is different and has prewar or early postwar label. The car and platform are brand new and unused. The parts envelope is sealed. The outer box is clean.

It's sad no one ever got to play with this fun car, but the condition makes it easier to understand.

Here's an unboxing of the set:

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 


I think this set was put togther by Madison Hardware in late 1963. The box was made in Brooklyn in September 1963. 

I think I have the cardboard peices and the parts in the box correctly. Nothing would be damaged with it packed this way, and the cardboard has marks from the staples and the car rubbing against it.

I'll add a reply with comparison photos to regular car set.


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General Discussion / Re: Recent Additions
« Last post by starfire700 on November 05, 2023, 03:01:41 AM »
Lionel originally stamped the 3659 bins from steel, but found they were too heavy for the solenoid to tip with a load. They switched to aluminum to solve the problem and used the surplus steel bins as 106 accessory bins.
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General Discussion / Re: Recent Additions
« Last post by Terry on October 28, 2023, 02:59:07 PM »
That's neat. The TCA blue covered book shows a type F on page 219. It has a similar top to mine, or the 106 in your catalog segment. The F is not listed as cataloged until 1931 so that might be an error.

I bought this today:

 


 


 


Gordon Wilson and I play a game to see who can find the rarest train at each train meet.  This little bin would surely have won if Gordon had made it to the meet.

It's a 160 bin that was packed with a 3659 dump car in 1947 because Lionel had no bakalite bins. It's actually an unfinished tray from a dump car. It's the 2nd I've had and maybe the 5th I've seen.

Paul W~~ and I used to play Most interesting item found in the bottom of the box.  This tray would be a good story, but not in my top three finds. 
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General Discussion / Re: Recent Additions
« Last post by early0electric on October 28, 2023, 07:50:04 AM »
Terry, What you have is not a K. It's a 106 as shown and described in the 1913 catalog. Nice acquisition!

 

The 106

 

Type K
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General Discussion / Re: Recent Additions
« Last post by Terry on October 27, 2023, 02:41:59 AM »
I need to do an LA show. I visit collectors over there when I go to the shows. Last time was the TCA convention in 2021.

It seems like the online auctions go in waves. Maybe that's a good thing as it allows for the saving of money to buy better items. 

I talked with a guy a few weeks ago with a mid-teens Lionel passenger set, and asked what else he had.  He texted me photos of the control board. I spotted the gem below and told him it was a shame it was repainted because otherwise I'd buy it.  He said he didn't want to throw it out because it's so old, so he sent it to me as a gift.

 


 


 


 


Packed it was 11 pounds.

It's a slate top transformer. I think Type K from 1914-18 or so. There should be a decal on the top under the control lever.  Neat.



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General Discussion / Re: Recent Additions
« Last post by early0electric on October 25, 2023, 07:52:17 AM »
Terry,
Sometimes I think it's crazy to spend all that money to go to YORK and come home with so little. But there's no train meets here in the area. I suppose I could save the money and just buy at auction but the early O stuff I collect just doesn't show up. So I go and treat it as a vacation and a chance to get together with friends and hope for the best train-wise.
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General Discussion / Re: Recent Additions
« Last post by Terry on October 23, 2023, 01:54:20 PM »
The olive 150 is wonderful. I have a bunch of odd colored 150 locos, but not that one. Now I know to look for it.

The 153 is neat too. I have a 153 in gray that has no hand reverse as the holes have paint in them. I think it's a 152 with the wrong number on the side.

Great Finds. It's sad to go all the way to a train meet and only bring back a few items, but you get to socialize and the items are special. I'm always dumbstruck when people show me the milk car they got at York.

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